Oh what is up everybody welcome back to Kiwi Labs pickleball YouTube channel today we're talking about some carbon fiber controversy that I think people stopped talking about when it's still very much an issue even I thought it was gone but it's not so stay tuned let's get into it so in this video I won't be naming any of the factories that I've.

Talked to or any companies involved it just doesn't seem fair because I don't know if these companies are still using these factories and all that stuff but but it is still an issue now another thing is just a quick background I've been developing paddles for you know not a ton of time but a decent amount of time I've worked with you know easily 10.

Factories plus if not more including designing and ordering paddles so I've gotten to see how all this stuff works pretty closely and um that's how I stumbled upon this issue you're wondering why do I look like I got punched in the face uh I actually got sunburned snowboarding this weekend which I didn't know could happen but I.

Did anyways what we're going to be focusing on is uh specifically t700 carbon fiber it's definitely the most popular on paddles there's a lot of people using 3K and I can't say that that's an issue uh that this would fall under I think this is mostly t700 so that is what I'm focusing on in this video.

We focus on the t700 is technically uh the the raw t700 carbon fiber which both these paddles have uh these are just two different prototypes that I have to show an example um they're using that and the raw t700 is actually too gritty uh we'll actually talk about what you need to pass the usapa.

Um gritty standards we'll we'll get into that in a little bit but basically as is it won't pass it's too rough there's two solutions uh in this hand the solution is to hand polish uh within roughness standards or in this hand uh which a lot of paddles especially carbon fibers did because it's cost effective because hand polishing is a lot of work.

Is a spray coating that actually uh evens out fills in the the roughness gaps and creates another texture now personally we steered away from that we did try it out I'll insert a couple shots here where you can see if you want to test or know what kind of surface your paddle has you can easily just shine a light and if.

It's reflecting you probably have a spray coating on your carbon paddle the real issue here is with the raw surfaces that were hand polished or not so let me tell you what we do um are our surfaces like I said are hand polished down uh within roughness standards now those standards.

Um for the RZ number on a roughness tester it needs to be under 30 on average now you send six paddles in to be tested and they will do I think three tests if I'm not mistaken and throughout those you need an average that is under 30 or it's too rough uh ours right now are coming in at 27.8 um because I think that's a safe number.

We want to keep it as rough as we can but we don't want to risk going over so that is where we landed 27.8 and it obviously varies it's an average of you know we did we did a test of 10 so 10 times 3 30 whatever 30 different RZ scores that we average for that so uh 27.8 is what we had which I just think is a good example to keep in mind and.

Now you're like Larry well what's the problem you're rambling now you're right I I am a little bit but here's where it gets uh juicy um these factories are encouraging people to uh only do the first six paddles or your first sample batch that you get uh the one that you're eventually going to send off to be.

Tested they are only polishing that batch and none other from then on app um if you recall that's what happened to carbon that was the whole paddle Scandal they went through so you'd think um that it was solved or at least I thought it was I didn't think it was an issue anymore because carbon made all the pickleball news about it and you'd.

Think every Factor has heard about it too but no they're actually still um actively just polishing that first batch so they pass and then cutting costs by just sending out the raw fiber as is uh to everyone else it's not just the factories they do make it pretty clear.

That they do this it is the actual Brands who are choosing not to do this to cut costs I had a decently long conversation with my factory about this and I even sent him an article about what happened to carbon they actually didn't hear about it and I just let them know how how important it was to us that all of ours.

Are polished and that we we don't want to one we don't want to send out uh the product that we didn't test that seems just absolutely silly like yeah I guess it'd be grittier and people would maybe enjoy that but you know if anyone used it for pro play or whatever we'd immediately it's a disaster it's silly.

Who would not do that is what I thought but these uh Brands and my like I said I was saying my factory actually sent me a screenshot of what they said was a major brand um again not saying anyone's name or anything but they requested three extra.

Paddles to be polished for spot checks that they actively don't want to have them all polished they just are keeping a couple polished on hand in case they need it to be approved which I was just like I don't know that's that's what made me make this video because I thought we were over this as like a pickleball.

Development Community I guess um and I'm kind of shocked about it and you're probably thinking is this just one Factory one case and I don't think it is because I was the first person to have it built into my paddle quote uh an extra fee to have them all hand polished it wasn't like an actual line item they had so uh it's obviously a real issue.

I think it's it's actually a decent it's like an extra two or three dollars a paddle which doesn't sound like a lot but in the scope of things it is which again we're gladly paying because it's again it's just unheard of to not do that in my opinion I don't know um it blew my mind sincerely now the scary part of this for me is uh the fact that.

There's people who are maybe in this paddle making Community for the wrong reasons if you are trying to get just a raw carbon fiber paddle you want to check all the boxes of what's popular and you don't care about the quality and you I don't know it's obviously happening and that's kind of what scares me like uh.

Finding some of these factories getting into this business it's it's accessible nowadays like people can do it and that's what scares me because there's the more and more that pop up on the market you know who's going to be testing them like are you going to be as a consumer now need to buy a 1500 roughness meter to start testing your.

Paddles to see if they're accurate like no no one's going to do that and then on the flip side are you grateful you do get a grid of your paddle or is it going to be an advantage if you're doing Rec play like obviously that's the only kind of play I do so I'm like yeah who wouldn't want extra spin on their their paddles but it's just at the end of the.

Day it's not fair it's a I was gonna say moral gray area but it's not it's not a good thing I mean I guess it gets in a gray area when you look like the like diadems doing the vice um concept paddle as a way to get around we're not getting it approved because it won't be approved but hey go buy this and smoke all your friends at the court.

Um it's just kind of it is unfair but I guess there's a lot of paddles that people probably have that say us APA approved and they're not technically so maybe I'm making a bigger deal out of this than I than I should or or whatever but it it made me want to sit down and make a video because it's sincerely uh I.

Found it very interesting at the very least so um if you did stay tuned and watch this whole thing I thank you for that and stay tuned for um you know I'm making pickleball videos so hang out here uh thank you guys so much for watching I'll see you later bye
In this video, I stumbled upon a juicy pickleball controversy that I just had to share. It turns out that some sneaky paddle manufacturers are skimping on their quality control and only making a few top-notch carbon fiber paddles to pass USAPA tests, while cutting corners on the rest of their production. I couldn’t believe it when I heard, and had to bring this issue to light. So join me for a fun and informative look at the world of paddle manufacturing, and let’s make sure we’re all playing fair and square on the court. Let’s dive in.
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