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Ballin like houston hey feeling like whitney i need a bag bruh send it too quickly hello pickleball fans dave fleming here at the skechers invitational at the.
Riviera country club and what a day of pickleball we have in front of us we've got matches you've never seen before we've got the best players in the world ready to battle at this gorgeous setting and this is kind of like christmas eve because tomorrow for the first time ever on cbs pickleball will be there tomorrow afternoon at one o'clock pacific but we.
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Select medical onyx skechers and welcome everybody to the skechers invitational at the riviera country club dave fleming here i'll be joined by a cast of all-stars to help call this all weekend long here at this gorgeous setting.
Just getting started with our first match of the day we'll set the players on the near side about two are on the far side about to serve is yana grechina she's serving to callie smith there's catherine parento and there's elise jones we're playing a very fun format today we're going to.
Play two games to 11 and then if we split we've got a very fun tiebreaker we'll talk about throughout the day a lot of new teams a lot of new combinations and 1-0-1 gonna be a lot of fun here today.
And as i mentioned i've got uh all-star partners in the booth all day and look who's here colin john's in the house colin how are you buddy two floors lava early another beautiful.
Point by the ladies and again this week we've got new partnerships getting new opportunities to see a different ball and a different court positioning i think in the long run it's going to help all these ladies to uh.
Add to the tricks well colin johns with it momentarily and katherine was ready for that attack and snuffed it quickly two one two oh nice move by cali smith there seeing an opportunity jumps in front.
All right we got a side out catherine parento back to serve 131 second turn one three two at least john's there of course from utah as is cali smith so that state well represented here yes.
Three two one oh just wicked angled by catherine parento there pushing callie smith all over the court ah again skechers invitational the riviera country club lots of great matchups for you today.
There's the power of cali smith the middle is closed ladies and gentlemen okay make him hit one more ball three two one that's what you want to do you want to cover the line when you're on that side.
If the ball's in front of you let your partner cover the cross court and she was on top of that one four two oh my again cali thought about taking out of the air but then she would have most likely had to step into the kitchen so she had to.
Let it bounce and it didn't get to the height of the net and just hit the top of the tape one three four two great angle by cali smith there finishes off the point.
What a save by catherine parento in the middle there gretchkina able to finish one again we're going to play two games to 11 and then if we split we've got a fun quick breaker called the fast breaker that we.
Will share with you if we get to that point catherine perento to serve to cali smith 351 a couple of misreturns here from cali here in the game one getting uh all used to this court in this setting sir four five beautiful load drive by cali smith sets.
Up the shake and bacon done utah style there's elise jones able to finish got ron ponder our great referee on the call here take a timeout as.
Elise jones cali smith off to a quick 7-4 start we'll be back with the conclusion of game one right after this hey uh katie could you pass me the creamer why don't you just come into the kitchen and get the creamer i can't i can't come.
In the kitchen sure you can no i i really can't you can come into the kitchen as long as you don't hit the ball out of the air all right spice stay out of kitchens.
All right welcome back to the riviera country club and we're at the skechers invitational cali smith and elise jones off to a quick start here in game number one nice finish by correct with the two-handed backhand 7 14. that's just.
Filthy by gretchkina beautiful cross court roll great time out there no harm done they are back in business at 4 7. another heavy forehand roll dink from grechina 571 good job by jones and smith of applying pressure consistently and then found.
Some feet wanna hit down on the ball and that lob sails a bit deep from jones and we are at six seven on a two good fire there from parento but blocked nicely by smith and gretch keana just sometimes with the two-hander it gets behind you and then you're late and the arc of the ball is gonna go well deep beautiful inside out by parento there.
762 sometimes just a little roll with more spin is even more effective than pace because it's harder to reset that and that's what crutchkina did there so again within one here in game one.
Not just taking the fire from cross court but redirecting it for a winner guess what sometimes that's a ball that is tempting for you to take but your partner is sitting directly behind you with the forehand ready to roll see if smith and jones have been stuck at seven for a while like it's in your.
Head drives way too high and greciquina just squashes it oh my sorry not sorry from parento there great digs from jones but uh she'll take it she was going for a severe angle and got the kiss bye beautiful job by parento and gretchkina.
Being ready to move that ball around and then attack so it is parento and grechina since they called timeout have not yielded a point and now have the lead here in game number one so they're gonna get cooled off we'll get cooled off we will be right back my name.
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All right welcome back everybody dave fleming at the skechers invitational at the riviera country club great match to start the day real tight here eight seven little kitchen battle and catherine had seen enough has said kitchen battle finishes it off and after being down 7-3 they are now up 9-7.
Forento to serve to cali smith a big two-handed rip and just out of nowhere just a nice run full of power they have a game point here oh just tantalizing on it just a little too much little bait ball second serve second chance to close out game one.
Oh and gretchkina looks down at her feet and is caught in the kitchen on the ernie so ron ponder calls it so got a fault there everyone's smiling about it and uh on the footfall call a match point is saved for a game point excuse me getting high third is destroyed by grechina.
Foreign nice job by jones and we are within one of tying this up at 10 again win by two here today at the skechers invitational one of skechers players of course it's katherine parente you see the bright blue skechers pickleball shoes she is wearing what hands what hands are handed.
By elise jones and it's scratch kina and parento that now need a timeout as a run is thrown back at them a game point saved on the foot fault in the kitchen on the ernie and now we're 10 to 10. so it's gonna take bonus pickleball to win game number one.
Who is gonna be the winner we'll be right back dorothy i really think you'd like the magnesium perfect i'd be happy to get that shipped.
Out to you today thanks dorothy you too come on does he do that every time every time all right we are back it is 10 a piece what a way to start an invitational gorgeous day at the riviera country club.
And what a battle from these ladies again new partnerships they're obviously familiar with each other but not necessarily beside each other so i heard a couple paddle clanks in the middle so far but it's going to take more than 11 to win this.
Doing that sales just deep so they do get the ball back on the timeout just wide so second game point here let's see if grechina and parento can close it out oh and unfortunately the net gets.
Involved in that so jones and smith up early grechina parento come back joan smith tie it up and then it is gretch kina and parento who are able to finish so game one goes to yana grechina and catherine parento 12 10 will be back with game number two.
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The ball back quickly for them and certainly loved their start now let's see if they can put a whole game together and force a fast breaker game three just deep cali smith sitting on that and ready to go just a little too much of it so.
Big heavy topspin roll dank so i think with the purpose folks i mean those are not just landed in that is putting pressure on your opponent with all that spin by piranto good job by callie smith letting that fly along good rip by greciquina there might have.
Gotten just a little bit of the tape oh that's gonna be a weird one off the edge of the paddle we're still playing and that goes a bit wide full swing off the edge of the paddle stays in the court that's hard to do the top spin rolls at the kitchen both out of the air.
And off the bounce have been very effective for parento and greciquina today beautiful inside out shot by atleast jones there it's a good early start for parento and gretchkina up three after winning game one goes for more of a slice cut.
Dank and fines than that 131 keep gretchen on the left side so they don't have to unwind the stack when you get into that position call it the scorpion get that paddle up above in front of your body you just want to stomp it down not take a big cut as grudge kane did there.
Looking much more comfortable on the right side of the core of those nasty forehand rolls and then parento comes up short on the two-handed roll there so uh the lead has been erased and they've got themselves a lead at 4-3 oh and jones.
Hands ready and tags scratch keena with the next ball and this day of runs here at the riviera country club continues as three-nothing perrento and gretchkina becomes 5-3 jones and smith.
We'll be right back all right we are back and elise jones and cali smith on a bit of a rampage here five in a row and still serving timeout was called greciquina again this is what happened in game one they.
Were behind call timeout and didn't give up another point until it was 10. big swing by jones in transition tough place for that play so again timeout very effective perento big sur that's a great ball by callie smith there catches.
Parento looking down the line so quick side out for smith and jones again the prelude of pickleball coming to cbs the three-letter network will have pickleball tomorrow from one o'clock pacific time don't miss that folks so much great pickleball today.
Tomorrow on cbs and sunday get those snacks get ready to watch pickleball the best players in the world battling nationwide coverage that's just great pressure by catherine parento and the anna gretchkina that's in.
And the cali smith reset clinic becomes a winner as she comes flying in with the two handed back in and able to finish and jones was way ahead on the point chose to go cross court to the parent backhand and she was sitting on it and quickly flipped the script on that point good job by smith jamming up parento there.
362. wicked two-handed roll there yes you are so colin john's back with us here folks just in time for a uh exciting finish for game two so uh colin johns in the booth will be playing a couple of times.
And then a big debut on cbs tomorrow that's going to be exciting yes very exciting for us as the players but more exciting as the sport as a whole so uh first time we're gonna be in a network with three letters never thought i'd uh be representing pickleball uh on the stage like that but it's definitely a privilege.
Once again this you know when you have new partners you never know what you're gonna see we've seen lots of runs here yeah it definitely makes for a lot more runs in my opinion so last week we had the uh the selkirk event where you played with a lot of different partners that you're not used to playing with and some were more fruitful than others and.
Definitely some miscommunication can cause a lot of runs um usually you see established partnerships able to slow the momentum more so um so occasionally you had some some match-ups last weekend that you were a little bit more established and it seemed like they were a little bit more.
Successful with stopping long runs catherine who were more of the established alpha players and you have elise jones and jana grechakina who are more up-and-comers and they all have their own skill sets they bring to the table and elise has had a lot of success in mixed doubles this year so playing with.
Someone like callie that really brings a lot of offense that's an interesting partnership and then you have on the other side catherine who's one of the best defenders in the game with jana who despite not being uh huge in stature has quite a lot of power i've actually played a few mixed events with her and she definitely packs a punch yeah.
Big pace we've seen also the the revolutions on the forehand roll dick too for sure she really like uh likes to brush up on that ball on the forehand dink and can do a lot of damage with it she does tend to make a few more errors because of that but.
Definitely very aggressive with that and shot haven't been on the mic the whole time but i have been watching and something that's really interested me is how katherine and callie have been playing the the preferred left side for for the dominant player but at the same time they've also been shadowing each other to some extent so when you have.
Two uh players that are more equal you definitely that's something a strategy that you can employ where you keep the one in front of the other to slow down their offensive opportunities so we're gonna keep seeing them not in the shadows but in the sun here at the skechers invitational happy birthday matt.
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all right we are back it is jones and smith running out in front and you mentioned shadowing what do you mean by that colin real quick so shadowing is when you're.
Going to follow one particular player around meaning you're going to put yourself straight in front of them um heads up the reason you would do something like that is it puts usually your better counter puncher in front of the better attacker so it tends to slow down their offense quite a bit so.
For example in mixed doubles this is more rarely seen but you see it more when you have a lefty involved and then we see end of game two so we get to go to the exciting breaker we're gonna have a fast breaker here folks so uh it is one game apiece we are gonna go to the fastbreaker and.
Let me explain what's gonna happen here so the winner will be the winner of this fast breaker and what happens is each player will get one chance to serve as many points as they can on that one try serve it in the net you're done so one team will serve first.
The other team will serve the next two players and then if you go first colin you get to go fourth so you kind of know sort of like being the home team in baseball where we're at so again you could get zero on your own server you could get five yep so if you're hitting in the bottom.
Of the ninth obviously you know how many points you need to get um so you're going to try to run off as many as you can to start out and then you see how many they answer with so playing it out let's say you scored one on the first one it goes to the other side and they score two and three individually so now it's.
Five one you know you need four to tie and five to win so that is nice to know uh puts a little extra pressure on you but i'd rather know myself so given the choice i would definitely choose to pick um the first and fourth yeah i would as well and you know we're always having some fun things and here.
We are at the skechers invitational so again all four players will serve one chance but one chance could be many if you keep winning those points so uh we'll we'll keep that clear for everybody uh it's gonna be fast that's why it's the fast breaker and that's why we're gonna have.
A fast victor in this first beautiful match here at the skechers invitational so uh let's see who's serving first it looks like it is gonna be elise jones so elise will serve for as long as her side wins points.
And interestingly it looks like they're stacking cali on the right so like i mentioned she's shadowing catherine so she may not get as many balls but she is putting herself in front of their better attacker which is katherine so no points for the service of elise jones they will get callie to serve so gretch keena will serve.
As many as she can get and then parental will follow great finish by cali smith so 0-0 to start so now now there's pressure on parento to get at least one or you're turning over a match point yes for sure to get one would be huge and put the pressure back on the other team at a minimum.
Great hand to buy cali smith there no just one all right so here's how trigger here's how this is going to work cali smith will serve from from the left side that is correct with the fast breaker if they win this point they win the match if they don't we will play one rally.
I don't want to see that dave i do too so here we go great d by gretch keno on match point down and just wide and it is cali smith and elise jones who win the first ever fast breaker 1-0 lots of excitement ron ponder explaining.
That that will do it so callie smith and elise jones win it goes to kelly's one nothing in the fastbreaker colin johnson glad we had you for a little bit there you'll be playing and we'll have you back in the booth of course this weekend so thanks for being here we'll be right back with the next match.
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I'd have i'd have i've had surprises for you all day in the booth well i got colin johns one of the best players in the entire world and then i got one of the best volleyball players in the entire world and a huge pickleball man casey patterson in the house case thanks for joining us buddy.
Thanks for having me this is an epic location and sitting actually calling are you kidding me i know come on i've never been nervous before this is the first time so we've got the men on the court now we had a our first sighting of the fast breaker i hope we.
Get a bunch of those today that's going to be a lot of fun to uh see how the players deal with sort of some quick nerve sudden death to win a match so to set the scene here we got a couple of smiths and we have one serving the other this is spencer smith.
Serving to pat smith spencer's playing with aj kohler and pat smith the winner soldier with that sleeve rolled up is playing with callan dawson yeah look like you gotta really wait for the prime opportunity versus creating so much.
Dawson with that ace of spades pro kennex power pop finish foreign point casey we talk a lot about the technology changes in our sport anything from the volleyball perspective that uh uh would match the ball changing or yeah.
Yeah we just recently i think wilson changed the the official pro ball like three years ago with kind of like this technology that helps you see it better right and all different types of light dust dawn uh bright sunlight or cloud cover um you know the i was like the optics they called it the optics version it just.
Helped you see the ball more often in different scenarios but that's about as all we've changed so far you know besides doing more push-ups you know you have noticed that green one it's easier to see but it also breaks down faster.
Right it's a little science fair project uh for my boys in the booth today for everybody a little bit of everything that's what i was counting on oh look at that aj kohler giving us a little bit of everything on the board here the man likes his love so this is quite.
Interesting because the best lobber is going up against the second best locker at least in my book we have calendar who puts down dimes on the baseline when he practices his lobs and we got aj kohler who brought back the third shot lob so we're gonna see who can out lob the other yeah i'm sure callum is like okay you.
Got you got you matched my first one so we're one a piece here so far all right challenge accepted that's a nice volley yeah do you know colin if there's anything going on behind the scenes where they're you know they're going ten dollars a piece you know at the end of the match whoever has the most lobs.
Consecutively in i may or may not have information on that i can't speak to that i'm sorry that was not one motion from aj either right there so yeah hey everything goes at the invitational here obviously if you're new to watching callan dawson play.
The grip he uses is very unique how is that a factor and what does that do for him colin yeah he likes to choke up on the grip a lot more than most players almost like a ping-pong paddle so that's going to give you greater control more maneuverability so in something like a hands battle.
You're not going to have as much torque but you're going to have a lot behind it because you have such a strong grip on the panel along with this paddle being very powerful so he's very maneuverable at the body he's one of the players you really don't want to attack a lot to the body because of that um and then he has great control on his sticks he doesn't.
Have a lot of penetration on them but he does have really good control he keeps them very short and low uh nice and soft sort of like that shot right there and then it also gives him great maneuverability for something like a lob or that last attack that he flicked at aj where he does give it up a little bit is.
On his return to overheads so on something like that you want a little bit more leverage so that's something that you can exploit a little bit but they're not shots that you really hit all that much in a rally i mean you're gonna hit a return once and you're gonna hit an overhead maybe once in a rally usually.
Nice quick lead for pat smith and callan dawson playing very solid out the gate here oh and pat smith just punishes a short return slimy inside out just that was nasty and some great action on that and pat smith definitely has one of the best forehand drives in the game if not the best he gets such good action on.
That and because um he's just such a weak guy such small biceps i just don't know i can't imagine how he's getting that much power on the ball but that might be the paddle yeah some commotion on the correct server.
There so even though they were stopped so all of that beautiful forehand and goes for not because of the wrong server so we're at seven one two there's the heat off the ace of spades nice handle of it though nice exchange there.
I'm gonna say that battle is probably so complementary to his grip that it adds so much more of an offensive threat right just a little even if it's a few percentages it's just probably helps him confidence-wise too to be an aggressor absolutely yep if he was playing with a paddle that was more control oriented he definitely wouldn't be as dangerous in.
Those hand speed exchanges because he takes very short swings with that grip that he uses but it's sort of offset by the amount of power he has with his pedals well the third shot lob is very short but still gets the man yeah and a very nice counter there by spencer who prefers that backhand and.
With a lot of pace but definitely got it down and got calendar overhead that next one nice job by spencer smith that fell in the middle kohler left a lob up gotta dig out to your partner's problem sometimes so okay yeah then you gotta like say my bad like.
Oh sorry i set that up wrong but i finished it for you so we're good i call it as a dad i call it changing my own diaper as long as you bail yourself out exactly i like aj's uh well he's in two lobs so far and as somebody who follows you know the weather apps a lot as a beach volleyball player like what's the wind.
Out what's the where's the sun that's for sure the good side for the lob because you got the solar eclipse as soon as you throw it up oh yeah you definitely have to be aware where the sun is where the wind's blowing that really helps your lob game not something that i think about a lot because i don't love a lot but definitely something.
Talon and aj are taking note of yeah the other thing with calendars you see sort of gets down to the side when he's serving and driving the ball that's because he is a college baseball player and was a sidearm pitcher so that's that's the technique he's used to from another sport that's a great exchange here nice resets.
Oh and smith gets a hold of that one but drives it a little bit long just a little behind him yep a lot of times you do end up making contact with counters behind you when they hit a good jam shot like that that's usually very good it's still getting a lot of power on those.
Wow spencer that was insane by him and spencer has good hands in the transition zone so you'll see a lot of times when those exchanges take place he'll take us a step or two back if he feels like he's losing the rally and he'll actually retreat all the way to the baseline of time so that he can have a little bit more reaction time to reset.
And he's very good at that whereas some players like to stay close to the line and just kind of suck up whatever power is coming at them and try to bring it right back at him but it is a little bit of a higher risk higher risk but higher reward yeah it lets him be able to get a little top spin on it because he's got a little bit.
More time and then be able to counter with direction yep i mean you're playing with a weightless plastic ball with holes in it so every step back you take is definitely a lot more reaction time for yourself there's a lot of drag to it so if you think like a shuttlecock and badminton i mean that.
Thing goes super fast off the racket but once you move back a little bit a lot of pace comes off stops yeah so pickleball is not to that extent but it's similar and during the shuttlecock uh flight discussion aj kohler got to sneak another third shot lob which was an effective winner.
Let's say it's one for three that's a good ratio i'm a green light em hey dude just green light that thing 3-0 pitch go exactly just trying to overcut that a little bit there and it looks like it's really starting to warm up out there so the ball is starting to be a little bit more mushy.
And we're trying to cut it sometimes we just die on you looks like that that's what happened to aj on that you're getting just creamed in the lob battle so far many languages of pat smith are out and about today the germans coming out yes and his father is in the house today had a chat.
With him beforehand so let's love when the family of the players can come out and support yes i had the pleasure of meeting his dad last night at the party and uh i can definitely see where he gets his grip strength yeah that man will mess up your hand hey that's a that's a quality handshake it.
Is a quality handshake he does not get beyond that probably direct eye contact too right very much so yeah oh yeah no he's not staring off into the horizon oh calum that was your chance to even the score there with the lobster interesting choice by aj there colin yes he was thinking lob and then i think he changed his mind and said i'm going.
To use both wrists and roll them over as hard as possible for this one left two-hander just way too high for gallon have you noticed colin when you're playing in uh like intimate stadiums like this where for me the wind i just noticed the last match there's a little bit of a swirl.
Right so it's coming into random corners and i saw it affect one or two balls that were hit at a specific speed maybe not a ton of spin in the last girls match and uh they go to attack the ball and the wind on the way down would catch and affect the ball and they missed it do you guys recognize that or talk about.
It at all or is that something that isn't really a conversation it's definitely something you have to be aware of and if you haven't played on a stadium court or something like this it's sort of for an idea where the wing can actually change directions um so if you're playing on a big stadium court that's sort of like a bowl.
It can change so easily and you have to be aware of that because you could think it's going right to left and then it's left to right so um something you have to keep tabs on and no that can't happen because it can be very confusing at the beginning you're like i kind of sworn the last point the ball blew this direction but.
Yeah when you're down in a hole i'm sort of like what we're at right now it can definitely be a factor and the bowl is a flight zone for calen dawson they're setting them up for a game point here in game one there's the sidearm slider and he was ready for the speed up in the.
Middle and the ace of spades says enough blackjack four callan dawson and pat smith so game one ghost to them in impressive fashion it's pat the victor of the two smiths here so spencer's got to see if he can or even up the smith score.
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Callin and pat winning the battle in game one but aj kohler winning a lot battle with callum so i'm sure he's still a little happy and spencer smith showing those magic hands again colin johns and casey patterson the volleyball superstar in the booth.
Nice finish by spencer and casey when you have somebody who has a specific trade in in volleyball do you talk about it you know when you play aj you got lobs coming what do you do in volleyball that's similar and how do you get that because you know it's 2v2 yeah in your sport as well here right yeah i think we like.
Immediately identify like hey what's this team's identity what are they good at okay the lob and they're just going to grind us down with dinks right or something like that in beach volleyball and so we kind of have a game plan to prepare against that and mentally it's it's good to have like hey we know that's what they do well so it's not.
Going to surprise us if they do that so let's not get emotional about it right like it doesn't affect us so let's have multiple game plans to try to experiment so that we can kind of uh you know add wrinkles here and there if they get into a rhythm so it's very similar i would say probably to pickleball where you kind of have a few.
Different lineups and strategies and then you kind of you know they're going to do some things well and accept it and try to bat it all battle it off as well as you can yeah i feel like that's something you do in a lot of different sports but it's so important something a lot of players do neglect to do another thing that i like.
To do even on top of that and tell me if you do the same thing in volleyball is sort of create a narrative that you want for the match so for example if uh aj and spence are going are going into the match they don't want the narrative to be callan is crushing counters and lobbing them left and right they're playing with a lot of energy.
Over there they don't want that they want the opposite of that they want aj dominating with his roles playing a little bit slower a little bit more by the book to set up aj and that's something i like to go into the match with i want a narrative that suits us it may not result in the outcome we want but it gives us the best.
Chance right right yeah i think we have that and then is on top of that is like all right also what can i do as a partner to maximize our team and how can i help you know alleviate any sort of stress that he might feel if their game plan is to play against him yeah layers upon layers dave come on come on that's why that's why i said i.
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Rating guaranteed so but i do think the metal game is is part of this that is very underrated you know when you when you go out and play for fun that's one thing but when you have the best players in the world whether it's volleyball this sport tennis anything that requires a partnership if you aren't in sync and the and the talent level is pretty close.
That's going to be the difference yeah i agree yup very much though and it's not always about playing your best game it's also about playing the best game for your partner maybe you're good at something but it really makes your part for your partner vulnerable so playing the right shot at the right time against who you're playing against.
Is every bit as important as maximizing your strengths and weaknesses right right get the most out of your guy you're also complimenting him that's huge because then the vibe is good you keep everybody up and positive yep and that's something you gotta decide ahead of time i mean you talked about a little bit on the partnerships.
In volleyball and how it's similar trying to lock somebody down but you have to find somebody that plays well with you not necessarily the best player that's available correct and that's something a lot of people don't understand they're like oh but he's the gnarliest it's like but you don't play well together and you guys fight a lot.
And it's awkward watching yeah gnarly level one thing but i refuse to talk to him while we're playing let's let's move on right right we do re replay the let's here on the ppa at the skechers invitational again this is christmas eve folks tomorrow live on cbs for the first time ever will be pickleball and we are excited we got.
Casey right in between us is one of the guys playing so it's uh it's a big day for pickleball yeah i'm excited to see colin and ben play together yeah it'll be the first time ben and i will have partnered together in a couple months um ben took a little time off and he was in europe um the last actual.
Tournament we played together was the atlanta final against matt and reilly um so we'll get to face them again tomorrow gonna be a lot of fun and i'm sure we'll be seeing them more than once the rest of the year so foreshadowing for the second half of the year yeah top two seeds have uh seen quite a.
Bit of each other and then uh with the summer break and then some of these unique formats uh you played against him more than with your brother here over the last couple of weeks yup i got one more coming up against him actually um not the one after this but the one after that i'm up against him again with emily.
Waters so he's staring down both his usual partners that's awesome so casey when you you know you've had a variety of partners when you see somebody maybe won a big title with that's now on the other side or a blood brother how's your mentality change with.
Something like that you know i i've always i've always identified as somebody that's always played better when i'm like up and happy and kind of chirping back and forth a little inside jokes and stuff like that versus quiet um and i think it almost helps me when i play like an ex-partner because it's like first of all my focus.
Is heightened and then i know kind of what triggers they have you know and for me uh i kind of prided myself on not getting rattled by that stuff because i love it it makes me play better i'm like oh okay we're doing this let's do it that's so true i mean personalities don't really change you know what does.
Bother or doesn't bother certain people yeah which explains your singles around against ben yes i knew someone would bring that up eventually you were hoping i don't know what the overall total was but i know that i won the last point so i'll take.
It yeah all i know is your paddle was scraping the ceiling of the orchard on tuesday night but talk about a fun event at a ppa all-star event held at jigsaw and that new orchard studio that was so much fun and so much energy brought to uh to that match before the match after the match can't wait to go third shot lobber.
Is still i mean callan is it's a blowout in the lob game here they eventually worked their way in it's good patience there just as you said that kohler went for a less patient flick but well patience is definitely not aj's uh that's not the first word that comes to.
Mind when i think of aj cullerman but they've got the lead here in game number two that's part of the reason i selected him as a partner recently for orange county cup and we did quite well together because i would say patience is one of my better attributes and it balances out between me and aj so i want him to go.
For the shot and be creative and i'll just be the patient solid rock and be in the sporting role so atp it's a pretty smooth atp defense there yeah the whole atp situation it used to be that's a clean winner great shot move on now it's just like okay you did it let's.
Get back to the kitchen it's unbelievable how the evolution of certain shots has changed in the sport it's so true and i mean a few years ago people were lucky to get a paddle on it now it seems like it's routine uh when people block it and not just block it but block it to a point where they can get back in the point yeah like a.
Redirect reset yeah i mean i'm running drills where i just have guys hitting like 30 40 balls with me and to try to defend it and like where my positioning needs to be and where i where i can go kind of reset offense at the same time you know yeah a couple tips on that um something that i always teach just keep your feet.
Inside the court when you're defending atp get that way to target that way you're not a target but better than that is you don't hit outballs so it's really hard to tell when it's coming at you that fast where the ball is going to land right and you'll tend to hit out balls if you put any feet outside the court um and then just think like a.
Hockey goalie would i mean get really low get the stick down in this case your paddle and it gives you a chance it's not a guarantee but it puts you in the right place at the right time but definitely keeping the feet inside the court's a big one i learned that the hard way well you got a lot of you to keep inside.
The court case a lot of feet a real patient point here from the gentleman and then pat smith sneaky little inside out using that reach not a full bicep flex just kind of like a little subtle just so just just show it very pretty misdirect on that one showing off the countering power there.
That's one team i wouldn't be hitting a lot of third shot drives against they both counter the drive extremely well you know that's back to your storytelling and narrative like we're gonna drop thirds against this team because exactly we're not gonna let them because you feed off that plus the pace of a good counter just makes you feel.
Good because you're taking something the other team might love to do away yeah if i'm spencer and aj i want this match to be more by the book until we get to the kitchen line keep it very boring i know aj likes to throw up the occasional third shot lob so enough to keep him happy but if they can get up.
There and get aj his hands on some rolls and get the exchanges i feel like the match favors them more in that scenario whereas the other side wants a little bit more chaos more countering more firefights more driving more ernie's more dynamic play wow.
Smith meaning spencer smith has been on point with his defense encounters and has dug both of them out of a hole a couple of times there kohler won't forget another lob there and wasn't able to be successful there's one of those aj doesn't dick two-handed so you know pace is likely to come if he puts a.
Second hand on there and that tell just let you be able to sit on this way if you're a two-handed player and you don't dink with the two-hander you are giving away the next shot if you put it on there yep even if it's only once in a while you have to show the threat of something else whether it's vice versa or that i.
Mean speed some up dink some but there has to be some misdirection on it otherwise the players are just too good with their counter punches casey we talk a lot about disguise being so important at the highest level here what have you been able to take from volleyball maybe to bring into your pickleball that.
Helped you maybe disguise something or just a trait that's been effective for you transferring from one sport to the other yeah yeah it's interesting because in on the the beach volleyball side vision and manipulating or let's say carving different sides of the ball is like my like that's my superpower in a sense.
And uh trying to like bring that into this game where it's like a lot of inside out or different tempo and speeds from awkward positions to create maybe a pop-up that's been something i've tried to like implement and bring over to the pickleball world that i do really well on the beach side and when you say car for the ball does.
That mean hitting the right and left part of the ball because we have that in pickleball we just use it by a different name so fading or hooking the ball to get the ball to move in a given direction and it doesn't have to be a whole lot but is that what you mean when you say carve the ball and volleyball right inside out outside in over the top.
You know backspin like all different types of things you know simulate maybe a left-handers type of spin sometimes just to throw them off things like that yeah i gotta learn the new phrases thank you we're okay with carving we just want to make sure we're all talking about the.
Same turkey there indeed exactly and that's something not a lot of players learn later on so especially when you get to a higher level people think power and punching with the most speed is often the passive path of least.
Resistance when if you can add a little bit of misdirection in the sense that you're hitting the side of the ball getting it to hook or fade to one direction it puts the ball in just the right spot to where you took a little pace off but they weren't expecting it there and that's what really sets up the finish in the end yeah right exactly.
So it is again pat smith and callan dawson looking good here in game number two i think it's 120 milligrams let me check on that really quick it's 125. oh it's 125 milligrams ups or fedex for this one fedex they deliver on saturday.
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You dropped something that's a wicked backhand all right welcome back to the skechers invitational at the riviera country club dave fleming with pickleball star colin johnson volleyball star casey patterson we're carving up turkey's work shuttle we got science experiments we got everything.
For you guys today and that's why i love bringing people in here to give you a different perspective of what is going on here and it has been dawson and pat smith able to make a big comeback here now they're just two points from taking this second match of the day and more aggressive play there by.
Spencer he doesn't attack a whole lot he's a little bit more passive but very consistent plays the right shot at the right time but i feel like he's not kept calling off balance quite as much as he needs to in some of these scenarios especially when they have a little bit of the upper hand so is letting the ball go a big deal in.
Volleyball too it's the same yeah yeah so frustrating when you hit an outball isn't it it's so frustrating also on d when you get lined in and you're dialed in you see the guy just kind of unload and you're stoked to make the dig and you should have let it go out but you're like i'm here i'm just gonna make it happen so that i can counter and get in.
Their face and yell after i start out so it's hard it's the same thing here i want to just smash everything i don't care what's up i'm going to hammer it you know it is it's very technical and it's something you have to train yeah and i felt like once i got enough experience at letting the ball go before they even hit it was when i really hit a.
Threshold for letting a lot more outballs going pickleball because the thing is the geometry of the court i mean the net is quite high relative to the length so as soon as you have them hitting up from below the level of the net hard right it's very likely to go out um so a lot of it is determining all right how much did i get my counter.
Punch down okay they're taking a big swing at the ball chances are this is gonna go out and a lot of times they're not even trying to keep it in they're just trying to put it in your chest so if you're if you're moving ahead of time it's a lot easier to get out of the way yeah that's probably the hardest thing to do is when you do see it to let it go.
Versus want to counter hard yes a nice combo there by aj and the thing you have to remember too is you're going to win 100 of the points that you let go and again they go out and you might win 80 of the ones that you feel good about the counter punch but i i want that extra 20 so it might feel better to hit a counter punch winner but.
I'd much rather let it go and win all of them yeah you want sportscenter highlights or you want to just freaking win yeah speaking of which a good call there by aj kohler and that's another thing a lot of times you have a better vantage point than your partner and if you just say.
Something just in time it can get them out of the way on balls like that so able to keep them at nine but unable to capitalize on the first serve see what aj can do here i do like how the points are playing for them in the last couple minutes a little bit better it seems like they're being a.
Little bit more patient of course i jinxed it and then we went lob factory 2022. hey yup you gotta know with aj that's coming but i was about to say that it looked like they were playing a little bit more by the book getting into the line giving themselves a chance.
Oh and this serve definitely not something you see a lot from calendar yeah there we go pap good partner letting them know we're good little high five quick side out with no work to be done have to hit one return for a side out that is good living right there oh yeah.
That's merry christmas and a happy new year right there colin a lot of people talk about the style of dinking that calendar does with the short hop like that one right there what's the advantage of that so the advantage of that and what you mean by short hop first of all is he's taking the ball basically directly after.
The bounce so he's making contact with it very low but it takes a lot of the timing out of the shot so you're gonna be very consistent at timing it and you can keep it short quite well the problem with it the disadvantage of it is you're making contact with the ball so low um so the net is going to appear higher so if you think about hitting the.
Ball the ball over a mountain versus a molehill the net really behaves more like a mountain than a molehill whereas if you let the ball come up you can hit it more linearly and do more damage with it so what he tends to do is he hovers over the line and takes the ball out in front it's very hard to get him to miss because he can't really mess up his.
Timing very well but at the same time his dinks are always soft and they're in front of you so it's definitely a shot you want in the arsenal but in my mind i think it's important to hit some offensive links when it's more called for and it makes them just a little bit one dimensional.
And that's why you'll see him lob from that same position that's how he creates offense or you'll hit that double clutch attack like he just did spencer doing his thing again look at that he's so good at seeing that yeah yep and you do not get extra points for.
Hitting the selkirk sign on the net there so uh still at nine similar in our game if you take like let's say short hop which would be like you know a quick attack my hands on the ball a shorter amount of time so i can't create as much with it.
So that those short hops are tough to control because you have just such a quick amount of time where you've got to really commit to what you have immediately versus if i can kind of like back up and roll it or inside out and create some some stress for the other team yeah all right here we go.
And it is pat winning the smith battle over spencer with uh great assist from cali dawson pat smith and kyle dawson really solid sort of you know back to the to put a bow on this the narrative they wanted is the point construction for the most part favored the way they like to play and.
That's the way the scoreboard looked as well so it is the sketchers invitational here at the riviera country club we'll be back with the next match after this.
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Let's go welcome back everyone to center court i've got pat smith callan dawson here with me guys you played really smart solid pickleball on your side of the court did you discuss this matchup beforehand not really that much i mean uh we just played our game i was trying to not be.
Too stupid which i'm prone to and calm just uh did his thing i mean he's so good and so sold with his hands and everything and took patient with his dinks and obviously the lobs so yeah hats off to him well colin we've seen you coming back for the second half of the season playing just incredible pickleball last.
Weekend already this weekend doing the same thing what's your secret i mean really no secret all these players are super good both these guys we just played now spencer and aj both have unreal hands so can't really take too many chances so i just kind of believe in just moving the dinks around being patient trying not to hit the same.
Spot too many times and just wait as long as possible for the right shot to attack anything to do with that brand new paddle you've got uh i want to say i want to say no but i think maybe i think it's the paddle it's not me i don't know no never never.
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At the skechers invitational and as i said i'm gonna have non-stop fans of pickleball knowledgeable guests and great job by casey patterson and colin johns and now i've got one of the top senior players and strategists in the game scott crandall in the house scott welcome hi dave it's great to be here.
Great to have you scott is of course not just a fan of the sport but a local so uh you can uh give us some sense of uh tell us a little bit about you know this is uh a storied golf property we're on certainly so it's awesome to see pickleball here at the the riviera.
Country club yeah riviera country club is a phenomenal property this is a a great place to play golf and play tennis and play pickleball and here we go let's play pickleball irina tarashenko serving to leia jensen and pat smith does not get much of a chance to even go say hi to his parents as he's.
Right back on the court here his parents are all business they want to see him play for sure and there you see jay de devilier so you got devilier and jansen versus tarashenko and smith again two games to 11 if we split we'll go to the fastbreaker we'll talk about that.
Later if necessary nice two-handed finish by leia janssen of course refuting the idea that the backhand can't cover the middle it sure can scott all the top ladies have great two-handers these days it seems it's it's working so well a lot of the men are developing two hamsters i've.
Noticed just gives you uh there's on cue right there gives you a little more stability a little more pop with the left hand and uh you know disguise for sure now you give up a little bit in reach and you can get jammed up with it but.
Can't be a bigger proponent than myself with the two handed backhand it's your strongest shot isn't this my fave i i but um i think disguise is the key word i think the disguise of it is what makes it such a good shot tarashenko sneaks one down the line that it's a nice little half attack she just kept it low didn't hit the hardest you.
Could but the the height is what won the point for her just wide from pat smith there tried to catch that severe angle got to be careful not to give up an atp there of course jay can get out there quickly if the atp is available.
Just he's looking for it and he's got not just the reach and the length but the athleticism to go with all that he can get that 6-3 frame moving in a hurry so again we're at the skechers invitational we're going to see a lot of new matchups today tomorrow and sunday and.
Obviously tomorrow is a big day for the sport of pickleball as it it will make its debut on a three-letter network on cbs tomorrow scott it's very exciting that is outstanding one o'clock pacific from this very court of the overrun ernie stink stays in it though.
And janssen again ready with the two-hander in the middle just catches the tape yeah the the ball was left up just a bit and arena took advantage and just attacked it great job by taraschenko of making devili a hit two or three more balls after a high.
Third from her partner arena scramble defense is really outstanding fun to see pat and jay on opposite side long time partners on the men's side yeah they i played with them for a few hours yesterday they enjoy playing with and against each other.
A lot of banter constantly and we talked about what makes a partnership fun and you know being loose and be able to play freely is a big part of that and you got to find that and that's that's where good partnerships come and we heard.
Casey talking about that in volleyball and it certainly carries over here at all levels yeah i mean jay is one of the loosest most charismatic fun players on tour so it's always fun it's always fun to play with jay i think it's and i think pat is one of the more serious.
Guys so it makes them a good combo jesse you know that jay and jesse play a lot jessie's the serious one and jay like keeps things light it makes for a good combo so we'll be seeing la's own jesse irvin here and even though we are in la and it's irvine california it is jessie irvin so don't.
Make that mistake if you get to see her play there's an ernie thwarted but stays in the point and that is that is the challenge if you were gonna roll a backhand dink you've got to rally back to the middle if you leave it up because it is your responsibility because you gotta have.
Your partner cover down the line that is just beautiful from defilier there on the short return it's a high degree of difficulty drive to keep it down get it rolling down from that short of the court because when you only have 44 feet to deal with to begin.
With good read by tarashenko there but then the ball was too close to the net so nice uh counter to the move that she had in play that drives actually harder than the one he made because of that depth in the court it my ball just took too long to get there.
Another good drive by devilian that's the challenge of unwinding the stack you've got to get over there and get set and cover big serve makes that even harder yeah that is the pretty much the standard strategy uh when when you know they're going to what stack big serve.
Wide followed by a big cross court drive to the person running across court to cover this again and it pays dividends until tarashenko comes up with tremendous defense and finishes with that two-hander we talked about so dig themselves out of the unwind there garina turned defense into offense in.
One quality shot and that's what uh if you're new to watching pickleball that you know sort of like hockey one nice play and suddenly you're off and running into an offensive position that's quality kitchen play by leia jansen and.
Pat smith's trying to look for a place to sneak in and support tarashenko couldn't do it on that one that's that's the the value of staying at the kitchen when you're dinking you can attack a high ball if it floats but if you're behind the kitchen line you can't attack anything high it won't get to you.
And there's a good rule of thumb if your opponent is just going to be happy resetting keep hitting it at them and see if they can keep doing it a couple of dainty shots from the wichita boys there and then pat smith gets it but uh some friendly fire leia seems to be just fine there.
That's honestly some of the scariest hits people take are off their opponents or not their opponent's paddles but their partner's paddles good low ball from tarashenko tarashenko hits a i consider a very offensive drop yeah it's heading down it's got some top spin.
On it they're they're not easy to deal with that's nice and jansen and devillier looking very comfortable together on the court and they're uh all black and white here and uh devilier mockingly says good serve but.
Sometimes quite frankly that up serve is the one that does create more errors because you have to add the spin and the pace to the return instead of using the pace you get i sometimes question the strategy of hitting a the same hard ball to a pro just not going to throw them off at all change their eye angle and throw that.
Lava every once in a while people sometimes are afraid to miss so they'll be more conservative with the return arena tarashenko again as you mentioned if you stay on the line you reach in opportunities exist and she took advantage of that one well she played it perfectly too she didn't overdo it.
I like the way jay is playing this this game he's he has so much different improv stuff he gets the you know when he when you hit it behind him he hustles over and hits a nice soft shot he's doing all those little things all those intangibles pretty well and it's fun to watch him play when he's making all of the improv.
And i think it comes down to how solid is everything around the improv did we build the stage right did we get just do we have the fundamentals down because the rest of it is beautiful and it has led them to a game point here oh my and sorry not sorry on game point as it trickles over after a lot of athleticism.
But again jansen playing really really well on her side and devilier doing a lot to be menacing but not too much to create a problem for the score of his team what do you think so.
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Country club beautiful day for pickleball a lot of new fun matchups dave fleming with scott crandall and it is leia janssen serving here in game two really impressive game won by her and jay devilier and devilier comes roaring in a little late little off the edge of the.
Paddle he's smiling away but guess what one zip so that speed up from leia it was a little taller after swing got bigger and the ball was kind of low which makes it a tough shot and pat was all over it very nice by smith under control there and it took its.
Degrees of telegraphing like from the baseline you bring it up we know you're gonna drive that's fine at the kitchen line that's where you want to make everything look as similar as you can because then anyone that's just even a half a second late at the kitchen line you're ahead of.
The game with that yeah exactly if if what you normally do changes then they'll know it's coming like i find that colin johns takes big big preparations for even dinks yeah so you never know what's coming because they all look the same and they're all maybe a little more fluid and longer and some people.
Have short moves but if you have a short move all the time and then you take a backswing well we know something you'll be on the way we know that the alarm has been breached and here's let's get everybody ready and that's why it's fun but i love to watch aj kohler play because he can.
He doesn't take any maxwell he just flicks and you just don't know what's coming where it's going there's no tell i shouldn't say there's no tell i think when aj's tongue is out of his mouth on the right side he's going to flick backhand when he sticks his tongue out on the left side he's going to flick.
Forehand you never know what you have to read sometimes it is tongue positioning know your opponents folks look at this there's the flying frenchman the ball before it was actually the tougher ball that backhand stab off pat smith's paddle was nice.
Well deep from janssen just trying to lay it in there a couple of uh first volleys have not been made here and that uh has afforded a little lead for tarashenko and pat smith and i would give arena a lot of credit there because her drives and just her her average.
Attack ball has been so low over the net it just it she's asking a tough question and she's getting some errors out of out of that quality shot and she's not hitting it as hard as she can she's hitting it her kind of her normal high percentage shot but it's the height over the net that is.
Really winning her points again tarashenko just relentless pressure and as ron ponder our referee calls it we're at 7-2 and jay devilier and leia jansen have seen enough this is a.
Runaway train here in game two pat smith and arena tarashenko looking very good in game number two here at the skechers invitational we're just outside of la at the riviera country club beautiful day for pickleball slight little breeze you can see some of the.
Overhead shots there and this is the tune-up to national tv tomorrow cbs one o'clock pacific uh big day in the world of pickleball uh why don't you describe scott you're local where are we in relation to the the beach and the airport and where are.
We at here say it's kind of santa monica adjacent probably a mile from the ocean as a bird flies so we have a little nice ocean breeze the weather is great here which is why this property is amazing oh my and the time out and then the dreaded divorce.
Ball returned just both of them staring at it that's the what's the one thing you'll get when you have uh okay so the timeout is highly effective i feel like we say that a lot scott so don't take them home don't make.
A paper mache out of them use them trouble in the transition for jansen there they'll get a second crack at it here six point hole though good move by pat he says sorry doesn't mean his parents are in the house watching.
Nice finish again if you're tall use that reach as your advantage yeah nicely set up with arenas defense she defended from you know behind the kitchen line he hit it nice it had a really good offensive reset and then squeezed right back in and pat's long arms took advantage he was too ready yes out in front.
And pat saw a chance and just a little too low yeah the chance was there if that dink had floated pat would have looked like a champ but uh leia hit a quality quality drink that got down quickly oh and that goes deep as well so uh a little den in the score here still down five here in game two.
Tarashenko might have hit an outball there off the backhand roll of devilier careful leia and ironically the sketcher sign is in play there right in the center beautiful finish there pat punishes above the top yeah again arena seems to be setting these up.
With quality shots and pat is there ready to finish them good teamwork and they're now within three can they keep this comeback going good leave by tarashenko there good leave it well she was able to leave it because her ball got below the net and so she's able to know what this if they.
Hit it hard it has to be up let me let it go oh and off the tape there helps out jansen still at nine beautiful drop there and we have a game point that would force a fast breaker here great hands by smith so we will go.
To the fast breaker format to reset if you're just joining us the way this works is that each player will get one chance to serve as many as they can get before there's a side out so you could get zero on your individual serve you could get five okay one team will go first the second team.
Will go the next two and then the team that goes first will have a chance to answer with the other server on their team whoever has the most at that wins the match if we're tied we will play one point one rally rally scoring whoever wins that takes the fast breaker so uh a lot of fun we.
Saw elise jones and cali smith win the first ever skechers invitational fast breaker earlier by a score of one to nothing so one was enough so the you know the strategy here scott is do you want to take that first serve if you win the.
Toss so that you know as the fourth that what what number do we got to deal with here or would you rather bunch those up and then maybe have a better position on the tied up point because you'd be receiving yeah i think i would i would rather receive first so that i could be.
Receiving in the case of a tie okay if i'm receiving that's like i don't know if we do a distribution of how often am i going to be ahead behind or tied well for my head i'm good if i'm tied i'm receiving so that would be that that would be my take all right so here we go tarashenko will.
Serve first and we'll get as many as she can get for her team here and the fast breakers because with just the lob serve okay so they get one on the board and this is the advantage potentially going first because you can put a lot of pressure on.
The other team we expect people to play this more by the book try and get to the kitchen line not doing anything too snazzy to start with there's a nice attack by devilier all right so now jansen will serve so one on the tarashenko surf she's done serving now how many can they get on the jansen serve down one.
Wheels it over but not that one so devilier must get at least one here or we are done definitely a big advantage to score first and that will do it it is pat smith and arena tarashenko winning the fast breaker again by the.
Score of one zip so much pressure in that little pocket of play to determine a title so tarashenko and pat smith and pat smith with his parents in the house they've got to be loving it he's undefeated yeah so another exciting fast breaker we'll be back with our next match after this.
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Much family that it requires to get to this level what is it like to play in front of them is there extra pressure are you just having such joy playing in front of them no there's no pressure i uh i'm just i'm just loving it they're here you know covert happened i wasn't able to see them for so long and i'm just enjoying every second.
Uh to spend with them and uh to play out here in front of them i love it arena we're here again playing with some new partners what does that require to be out here and to be able to put together a winning performance when you're playing with a very talented player but maybe with someone you haven't played a lot with.
Well pat and i actually played quite a bit together but i feel like these are anytime i play in california and especially at this place riviera country club um it's like a home court for me so thank you guys for coming out doesn't matter who my partner is we're going to have a great time and get the fans behind us yeah the fans here are.
Exceptional they're loving the pickleball so thank you fans so pat we have sort of a new tiebreaker here that puts a lot of pressure on the point very quickly what was it like to play and like we got to do something in a hurry here this is going to be over it's really strange to be honest with you um.
It definitely doesn't put a lot of pressure on you because you can't make any errors um and you definitely want to fix her first that's definitely true so you pick sir first and you get your second win of the day arena what are you looking forward to for the rest of the skechers invitational you got a lot of.
Matches throughout the next few days i'm looking forward to great pickleball sick tricks and uh looking for jesse irvin to get some trick shots all right the local jesse irving has been called out here folks so give it up pat smith and arena tarashenko are your winners we'll be right back with more great pickleball.
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We got more mixed action and ben johns and anna lee waters will be on the court but across from each other in fact ben johns will be playing against both of his usual partners here as his brother colin johns his normal men's partner and anna lee.
Waters his normal mixed partner will be on the other side now his partner is the very formidable cali smith so we got quite a street in front of us here scott yeah we i think we saw a match similar to this last weekend um and anna lee and colin put up a great match against uh ben and jesse i believe it was yes it was so i expect something uh very very.
Similar uh here but it's like i i really enjoy watching colin and natalie play because colin um i mean last week he was playing the right side which he is you know a specialist at and then you know anna lee who is pretty much as good as any of these guys.
Can play the left side um all day long and if they really are they really are a tough team so this will be this will be a high level fun match yeah there's no doubt colin and annalee would like a little revenge from the match you mentioned that was a very tight three-game affair last week just up the road here in southern cal all right.
Let's play pickleball callie smith to sir to colin johns and ben comes over but a little too much pace on the dank from colin to be able to get second serve so i think the first match of the day for three out of four right cali played once cali played in the first in the.
Other three this is their their first match debut so we're gonna give him four points to warm up no harm done no just catches the line and there's what we talked about anna lee can take over the middle of the court i don't care who's on the court it.
Doesn't matter yeah she that's kind of what this this format of changing partners all the time kind of demonstrates how good she is it doesn't matter who her partner is or who she's playing against she more than holds her own against any of these guys oh my here we go that's in.
Oh and hannah lee goes for a wicked roll that's just why ben johnson served to his older brother colin jones there you see some of the indecision ben and cali have not played a lot together lee looking for that ball and wisely lets that one sail deep.
One yeah it'll be interesting to watch cali to see uh it can't be that easy knowing how much do i get out of ben's way yeah and what's my ball and what is his that one being a perfect example especially when you're talking about somebody who's usually the alpha on her.
Teams especially in women's i mean she brings big pace brig core coverage i mean she's got all kinds of athleticism yeah and cali's her kitchen style is really being on the kitchen line and leaning forward well if you're there it's hard to get out of bed's way right.
If you need to nice rolling volley there yeah because we see some of the ladies get very comfortable giving that ground to ben so he can get in there and and dictate the point nice finish by john's there nice last construction by john's it's like one to the side good one to the middle.
And let me clean up the winner so wow great to put it all around and then to be able to hold that's the advantage of the tuning backhand she just left it there and was able to not panic when it hit the tape beautiful first stick volley by emily.
Waters and nice finish by colin again just keeping your opponent back if they're back naked hard on them what do you like what you've seen from either side here so far scott well um i i keep looking at cali to see how does she manage how does she manage the space with ben and she's doing it very well.
Let's we're a handful of points in and she's she's already figured out where she needs to be and yet still playing her game aggressively beautiful point there looked like one of their uh practice clinics in austin for a minute there with the john's boys.
Going at each other yeah well i mean colin was going cross-court with callie and i think ben would probably prefer that ben go cross court with anna lee had a good look at one there just a little too much on top of it and pushed it deep i think he was surprised at how how high.
Just how high that was i do enjoy sitting this close and getting to watch how emily hits her two-handed dink and all of her two-handed shots there is a nice cadence and rhythm to it which is why it's such a quality shot it's a good leave lead by calling he saw that that cali was hitting about hard.
From too low and he he knew i mean i'm just gonna oh just watch it go don't get hit but you've got to recognize where where where are they attacking from because if they're attacking from too low this is not all i want to get involved in and colin lets all of southern.
California know to let that one go 431 don stanley the referee for this match here at the skechers invitational we got mixed we got men's we got women's we got new and old partnerships it's gonna be fantastic three days great job by callie smith having that paddle up and ready yes like she doesn't.
Have to get ready because she is right her defense is just solid she's always expecting everyone to be coming fast you know that's a mentality that players at all levels can adopt it's hard to get there for some but you're always looking for it to be fast you can adjust to a slower ball second.
Serve that's a nice job by colin john to sitting on the line gotta trust your partner to have the middle he's got a very trustworthy partner okay so a little a little strategy talk from these two as anna lee you see there gets the serve going so.
That's a great point all the way around as both sides went from defense to offense and back and it's ultimately big brother that gets the winner and there's the movement from emily waters her ability to poach is uh a bigger weapon i think some people appreciate i mean.
She even got bent on that you think he would know voices suddenly it is anna lee and colin with the lead sex big screen no but anna lee will take the winner instead and uh this train is rolling right now and a.
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Ben johns to sort of settle this down don stanley calls us back in and here we go that is gorgeous by anna lee waters colin and emily have uh like i mean these last four or five points they put.
Some nice combos together they're not they're not doing it in one shot they're picking the right ball to attack and then colin cannot believe it he had full scorpion ready he actually got his brother to hit the ball he wanted he's like here's your toy i'm taking it and oh man it just caught the tape.
That's in that's in waters that starts the fight there in the middle and catches callie just jammed her up a little bit scott yes sir just can't quite make the reset these are some great exchanges though the the hand speed of this.
These four so and anna lee chooses to go cross-court attack after trying one at callie smith and ben was up to that attack big serve goes just deep you know and the point before we saw another atp just get defended like nothing yeah.
We're saying that ernie's defended now too that's just a thing just you know part of the game it used to be clean winners everywhere so much everyone is changing and getting better with the strategy a little too much on the.
Angle off the one that just dribbled over it's always a delicate shot yes cj unable to come in there and finish after both sides made ridiculous save scott anna lee had a high two-hander she pounded it down and ben just put his battle in a perfect spot on the floor and just dug it out.
Just wide so they crawl all the way back within one one what a battle here again ben jon staring down his usual two partners okay don stanley referee alarm clock blares out no no no we have to we have to get that for for.
Your phone you will never not get up for an appointment clip it and ship it yeah and elite couldn't get the paddle out of there and you know colin has such a good read of what's in and out that ball's like likely deep but sometimes when you're engaged you just can't.
The other thing that ben does especially playing with the new players you'll hear him say coming if he sees a ball that is attackable just giving as much information as he can to his partner that's when you just gotta throw away i'm to make that 99 out of 100 that was the one i mean it's it's caused by all the good.
Defense ben and callie have been playing but she won't miss that again for another six months that's a great attack across the body if you're sitting there it's hard to get the paddle ready to win by one 991 what thanks don when i won.
Beautiful job of annaline waters patrolling the line and they have a game point here so this is what i thought i would see more of yeah colin and callie going cross court.
Oh and it is anna lee that speeds it up ben was ready but she was ready for that reply and it is halfway to the revenge annalee and colin lost to ben and jesse last week can they finish the deal in game two we will find out after this.
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all right we are back colin johns and anna lee waters take game number one and it is the power of annalee waters getting us started here i mean not just the power but how quickly she reloads bang bang bang i mean she's ready on the next ball.
Oh she saw that coming and just got on top of it yeah and with the two-handed back end it's easy to fall through all the way across your body and not be ready she doesn't do that she's ready oh my so both ladies have the ernie set up perfectly and aren't able to execute them.
Joe one two shut out the the the ernie defense is getting so good when you jump that corner you know you got to do something with the ball oh and then that uh 2 dividends for john's and waters.
Two zero one yeah once that net cord pops it up you're way behind shout out zero two one just wide from colin john's trying to sneak it behind his brother it's tough because they know each other.
So well so difficult for the attack to work cali smith executed a full dink without hitting the ball there that is gorgeous defense of ben johns trying to take over a point they said not right now but your point before about cali executing the tank behind ben that's actually good perfect partnership.
Don't assume he's gonna get it be ready my goodness the defense and she comes flying in with all the force of the two-hander and ben is ready that's about the third time i've noticed that she's fired fired at ben's body and he's he's been on it every time colin and colin's defense in the middle.
Amazing just ridiculous point here who is gonna blink first and once again it is johns who thwarts a big drive by anna lee waters after way too many beautiful aggressive danks in the middle of a point well there were i mean probably close to 10 attacks that were.
That were reset blocked and and just neutralized the defense was spectacular by all four finally gets the finish there but uh you got to hit 11 winners just to hit one it's unbelievable see that's why it's fun to get everyone ben playing against his partners because then you get.
You get a good combination of all the best players playing against each other and oh and anna lee just uh she might have been just a tad late and no one cares found a ridiculous angle there yeah plus you got john's family bragging rights going on here as well.
Four three one second serve at four three as aggressive as she can play her choices are usually so specifically on point that one just a little low for that and colin johns making his first appearance on the left.
And just speeds it up it pays off yeah colin colin has a nice repertoire of speed ups and they they work very well against everyone lucky for him he doesn't have to play against him very often so suddenly annalee waters and colin johns have snuck in front much like they did.
In game number one and they were able to hold that lead so a timeout is called again will they be able to hold it and will the partners be able to beat ben and callum colin cali today john's what do we got parento another one shame third one this week any suspects not yet we'll send these to the lab.
All right let's take a look what do you think bring me the jigsaw all right we are back ben john's cali smith of call timeout anna lee waters and colin johns really pushing to get a victory here at the skechers invitational.
Ben says enough of this big brother you might know where it's coming but if you can hit it hard enough it doesn't mean it's not coming back there's a ball that anna lee was on and then thought maybe colin's taking it yeah i've seen a lot of attacks and ben's direction that are just not working.
I would prefer to attack ben's partner whoever that is not that nothing i mean cavity defense is phenomenal but i would just attack not bent and there they were able to get them behind in the point again and they're within one here kelly had a great shot from well behind the kitchen line.
And a nice flick roll so she knows she's gonna get opportunities because they're going to maybe take a ball like you said not attack ben attack her but maybe not the perfect ball to attack her and she is ready again we're tied up and that is a gorgeous atp because it was.
Never more than an inch above the ground yeah that'll make it tough to defend colin was in a good position to defend an average atp that one was above average oh and just pure filth on that ball from so low yes when you're on the receiving end of that there's no way it can go in so i'm gonna let that go out.
Oh it's in so that's one of those where you go okay that's just okay just freaking take that point it's yours you tried a really difficult ball and i'm glad i was here to watch it yeah so quickly now it's the other john's calling timeout so.
Can ben and callie keep the train running we'll see after this is ben you've got to give it up you're stepping out of bounds i'm so close parental this.
Goes all the way to the top talking refs commentators food vendors but how can you prove this it's so simple bring me the jigsaw all right we are back it is annalee waters and colin john to call timeout.
They are now trailing by two the attack but like i mean i feel like this look there ben and kelly's come back cali has hit some excellent shots that have made the difference to give him this three-point lead and certainly under attack there had a beautiful reset in the middle of that point so.
They're rolling and and it continues and that's just stupid that's just he shows the same again we talk about disguise with the one hand he shows the same and look and just flicks it over there and they are on game point here double bouncer the crowd loves it okay.
Okay so big brother said i'm sick of your counters i got a counter for years saves one game point that was well done by colin his paddle was sitting at the perfect angle to get it down okay so they are able to prolong this game now can they keep the ball for a while.
Bunch of runs so far in fact all day here and there they get one i talked to colin when he was in the booth and when you have kind of new partners he's not surprised there's been so many runs because you're not as comfortable working with a partner to either dig out of a problem or just getting used to.
What's going to make you successful nice job by callie smith again heading down not quite ready there so they are able to get one but a third game point and a faster breaker on the horizon if we get there and we will get there okay so.
Third match of the day where we split and we are going to the fast breaker so again if you're just joining us this is quick that's why it's the fast breaker scott each player gets to serve once they get as many as they can when they serve it could be zero it could be five whoever goes first gets the first chance.
The other team gets both of their chances and then it goes back if needed to the fourth player if we have a tie okay so scott's going with whoever gets the first point is.
It's certainly proven that answer so far so uh we talked to colin about this earlier too do you play a little less high risk high reward meaning shaken bakes more difficult in this because it is truly a high risk high reward when you only get one chance do you want to just get to the kitchen and dictate so it is colin.
We will serve so they'll have the first serve callie and ben will have the second and third and then annaly if necessary all right so nothing on the first opportunity so now can cali and ben put a big number on the board cali will serve until stopped so they get one so cali will.
Continue to serve one okay oh and ben has something he wanted and hits it down just a bit so now ben will serve for as many as they can get they've got one in the bank all right they get a second one so two.
Nothing been deserved big advantage here now they've already got two and elise still will get a chance to serve and ben comes flying in and now the deficit gets dangerous now you put a lot of pressure on there with getting three and now you start to.
Get a little ahead of yourself and uh not that you can't get four on annalise serve to tie this up but you hope it's just four you would need five because the tiebreaker right so they stop it but okay so zero four four to tie.
Five to one okay ben sneaks in there and comes up a little short so uh the opportunity continues here one four one oh my and anna lee has a great look at it but can't finish so ben johns again gets the victory over.
His two usual partners obviously he would go to battle with a player of cali smith caliber i'm sure any day of the week as he did today so the fast breaker goes to cali smith and ben john's cali smith now 2-0 with fast breakers 1 1-1 earlier today so.
Very fun match we will see all four of those players on cbs tomorrow at one o'clock pacific time and we will talk to the winners hear what they think of that battle obviously dropped the first game came back and uh really had to dig in and find their best stuff and they were.
Able to do that so we'll hear from the winners right after this so.
welcome back to center court everyone i've got callie smith ben johns after a grueling match guys you looked a little frustrated in game one what did you do to come back in game two well ben played his game so it's really nice thanks ben no uh we just we just stuck with the.
Game plan uh mix the dinks around move it around um wait for some opportunities um i just feel like that game plan went out in the long run well ben you know how badly colin wanted this one he's been trying to defeat you for so long but you remain undefeated how did you do it and are you a little bit sorry.
Uh well no no not really sorry we enjoy competing against each other each other always uh but luckily he's on my side of the court most the time uh but you know it's always enjoyable uh win or lose against him and really anything especially pickleball though but yeah no i think they played great it was a.
Really good match for the spectators so i enjoyed it i hope everybody else did too guys what is your favorite quality in an encore partner i really like communication especially when you both know the game plan you know what uh you're getting yourself into and who's supposed to be.
Where i just feel like i feel like it uh works better when you work together how about you ben oh i just want them to be good that's all that matters no i'm kidding um of course just just fun for me really i i think i i and a lot of other people play our best when we're having fun on the court and.
Pickleball is meant to be fun so uh yeah whenever i'm having fun with a partner that's that's the most important i think well we have a lot more exciting matches coming up guys don't go away new people pickleball so.
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In an instant here scott i like it yeah it's fun it's fun to watch these guys like how how risky do they do they go when it's like one one point will pretty much seal the deal and so we get some longer safer safer points so uh going with some ingenuity here and what.
You're seeing there is netcam so that is a camera embedded right in the net that will keep bringing you throughout our coverage here gives you a real neat perspective of you see elise jones at the kitchen line there and uh catherine parento sneaking up next to.
Her so always pushing how do you bring new looks too yeah it would be fun to watch i watch a sir go right over the top of that thing so the ladies are now taking center stage we see lee waters out there for the first time.
Uh separated from annalee they will obviously be back in women's for the together of the year but i think the players have enjoyed the variety the last two weeks scott yeah i think i think uh head on out it was it was fun last week but.
Everybody all the players are mixing up everyone is uh there's less tension in between matches and off the court you're playing with everyone it is it's a very fun vibe but also the pickleball it's fun to watch these players uh solve the puzzle of a new opponent with a new partner and figure out well.
What's gonna work against these guys and with this partner um and then you kind of just see that well fundamentals work so let's let's go with that but if you have uh certain certain you know trick shots or tendencies it's like they don't always work the same if you don't have a partner that you know just sort of.
Cleans it up for you and so not every one of the you know shots in your bag is going to work the way it normally works for sure and you know you get to try some shots that aren't in your bag typically like cali smith who is back on the court here and she will of course be playing.
Consecutive matches here she had this sort of give as we talked about in the coverage give a little room and be solid and be a counter puncher where she is often the one initiating did it very well in that last mixed doubles match yeah wait i brought that up when the match first started because there was a little dancing around and then after.
About four points like she moved perfectly with ben gave him space when he needed it and then she stepped in when he wasn't there and she her defense was was excellent uh and i also felt like in the middle of that game too she made a couple of great shots that gave them the lead and kind of you know created that gap and then just let ben.
Take it from there so she partnered you know she partnered perfectly with ben um which uh is not as easy as it might look no i mean you you're like i've got the best player in the world as a partner well yeah okay so that's a great place to start but then how do i complement that how do i do my part.
He sets things up for you but what do you do to finish it so we got the ladies on the court we've got lee waters playing with catherine parente we've got jesse irvin the local hitting the court for the first time here jesse we'll play with callie smith here jesse and callie with any history there scott i i don't i don't recall yeah.
If they've played a tournament together before with them today nothing in my memory banks but uh they're both very they're both very good on either side so i don't i don't know who's going to play what kind of reaching forward.
Um they're both pretty consistent thinkers so they can be patient uh you know this they might actually make a you know a great team uh but i don't think they've done it before okay so then we've got uh catherine parento and lee waters and you know catherine can play similar style to analy if that's required meaning press.
The pace but still have that big two-hander in the middle if she goes from the right side so i don't know if it's the case but i think if they're i think they're both in florida so maybe they practice together a little bit so they're probably more familiar with each other than than jesse and callie in terms of.